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The Cadillac V16
Series 452-452A
1930-1931
Part 1l
Production
Statistics
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This table was converted from the Excel file in which, since the early eighties, I had concentrated raw data about V16 production and surviving cars. If any users have more current information on any of the cars listed here, or information about other V16s not mentioned here, I will gladly incorporate it in this section of The (New) Cadillac Database©.
I believe the table is self-explanatory; however, if anyone has difficulty "reading" it, I will be glad to give further explanations.
A word
of caution: factory build sheets are filed by engine # (not chassis #)
there may be occasionally confusion in this listing between engine and chassis numbers;
| Production Month | Total Cars Shipped | Cumulative Total | Engine Nos. From To |
Notes on specific cars [by engine number, where known] | |
| Dec.29 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 3 | #1 built 12/2829; #2 = 4264B [body #1 ???] |
| Jan.30 | 5 | 8 | 4 | 8 | #4 = 4108C [ex-4155C ???, body #3]; [unknown #]=4380 |
| Feb.30 | 367 | 375 | 9 | 375 | #12 = style 4375S [to NY]; #21= engine only, with radiator & shell; #38=4375S body 45 [Don Lee showroom V16, later chopped to truck, then maybe 4302]; #100 = 4130S [for L.P. Fisher]; #101 = 4355S [went to Denver, CO]; #115=4355 [Rik LeForge former "Ole Yeller", now J.B. Nethercutt];#130=4302 body 3 [special show car]; 132 = 4375 [installed later in a 1933 custom Chrysler Imperial by Lou Fageol]; #150=4380 body 1 [destroyed and re-bodied with style 3882]; #156=4302 body 29; #163=4330 [Robert Taunton]; #169 = 4375-S, body #76 [currently,1998, is a bare chassis - was initially for sale in Bedford, VA, 10/1959 for $125!]; #266 = possibly a bare chassis w/ 4260 style hood for the Maharajah of Orchha - shipped 17.7.1931 to Bombay; #283 = now a spare engine (offered for sale on eBay, 12/2003; #298 = 4391 [possibly Ernestine Schumann-Heink car - has survived]; #321=4375S body 333; #333 = maybe 4302, in France; #353 = 4302 (?) {offered at auction in Geneva, Switzerland, in the nineties); #335 = 4235 for C.T. Fisher |
| Mar.30 | 436 | 811 | 376 | 811 | #416 = [currently] 4302 [but is a replacement motor]; #425 = demo engine; #476=4330 body 99; #482=4330 body 95 [converted to 4302 body 32]; #492 = 4325; #494 = 4380 body 19 - Hopalong Cassidy car, studio photos exist]; #499=4375; #519=4375S [rusted hulk]; #543=4380 body 34 [built Fleetwood, PA - early '30 details]; #556 = 4260 [W.A. Fisher]; #655 = 4380 [survivor]; #661 = [currently in a boat hauler!]; #665 = 4260; #666=4361S {seen by Rick LeForge in Oregon]; #697 = 4302 [Marc Ohm restoration]; #716 = unk. [currently (2004) a Fisher-bodied AWP]; #733 = 4330S [body #137 - it was exported]; #759 = 4361S body 52, ex-Harrah collection]; #789=4375 body 157; #807 = engine tested by Lycoming Motors, 06.27.1930; #809 = 4302 [survivor] |
| Apr.30 | 576 | 1387 | 812 | 1387 | #817 = 4380 [survivor?]; #821 = 4108C [began as another body style ???]; #847=4302 body 23 [ex-Harrah, exc. restored but some wrong details]; #851 = 4108C; #859 = 4375 [survivor]; #898=4335 [survivor]; #916 = 4361S [survivor]; #883=4280 ??? [now parted out]; #906=4235 ??? [now parted out]; #917 =was a sedan, now a 4302 [in Germany, 2001-2007]; #964 = 4302² body 28; #965 = 4302 [ex Otis Chandler]; #966-4361S ???; #979 = 4330S body #185 [later used for Saoutchik custom job](have build sheet1); #991=[special phaeton, Murphy]; #1001 = 4375S shipped to Philadelphia, PA; #1010 = 4375 [shipped to Newark, NJ; #1011 = 4335S [shipped to Toledo, OH]; #1012 = 4375 [shipped to New York]; #1013 = 4330S [shipped to Chicago, IL]; #1014 = 4375S [possibly w/ leather roof, shipped to San Francisco, CA]; #1015-1018 = all 4375S [shipped respectively to Wilmington, DE, New York, Fort Wayne, IN and Philadelphia, PA]; #1019 = 4161S [shipped to Los Angeles, CA]; #1021 = 4330S [shipped to San Francisco, CA]; #1025=4376 body 20 [got body tag imprint]; #1031 = 4302 body 37 [shipped to Philadelphia, PA - currently (5/2000) in France]; #1041 = 4361S [shipped to Portland, ME]; #1051 = 4361S [shipped to Newark, NJ]; 1056 = 4302 body 29 [Dr. Joseph A. Murphy collection, 10/2000]; #1061 = 4375S [shipped to Oklahoma City]; #1070=???? [currently in 4302 body 73]; #1071 = 4375S [shipped to Providence, RI]; #1078 = 4207 [body #16669 - other two were #16679 and 16681; #1081 = 4335 [shipped to San Francisco, CA]; #1091 = 4361S [shipped to Portland, OR]; #1096=4330 [exported to New Zealand in 1933]; #1101 = 4355 [shipped to New York]; #1112=4130S or 4330S [now engine only]; #1144=4330S [now engine only]; #1160 = 4130S [for L.P. Fisher]; #1146=4361S body 134 [now 4275S body333 - very bad rust]; #1173=4161S ??? [now engine parts only]; #1175 = 4175S for A.J. Fisher]; #1201 = 4330S [shipped to Oklahoma City]; #1225=4302 body 46; #1259=4376 body 43 [was parted out]; #1266=[currently 4380]; #1288 = 4335¹; #1289 = [unk., but was possibly mounted later in a 1933 Chrysler Imperial; chassis]; #1301 = 4330 [shipped to Brooklyn, NY]; #1304 = o/s engine now; #1323=4380 body 84 [now 4302 body 26 - wrong wheels other wrong details]; #1325 = 4380 [for E.F. Fisher]; #1334=4361S ??? [only chassis remains]; #1341 = 30-158 [Fisher coupe, Dick Shappy]; #1371=4380 body 69; #1378=[currently] bare chassis & motor, in Australia. |
| ¹ from story in CLC
1988 annual, p. 2 [this is possibly also the chassis number] ² see SIA78, p.33 [the "automatic" V16] |
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| May.30 | 442 | 1829 | 1388 | 1829 | #1401 = 4330S [shipped to Brooklyn. NY]; #1467-4330S body 27; #1495-4380 body 98 [orig. body destroyed, now 4302 body 20]; #1501 = 4380 [shipped to Washington, DC]; #1502 = 4375S [survivor]; #1519=4375 [engine only - could be also 1919]; #1530 = 4220 town car [shipped to Buenos Aires, Argentina], motor currently in Spain, in a racing car; #1540=4376 body 53; #1550 = 4175S [for C.T. Fisher]; #1554 = 4260 [chassis #7-3101, body #2, European tour car, body later removed and replaced with convertible sedan body by Saoutchik (have build sheet1) - Steven Nanini, CLC Senior car #141]; #1608=4330S body 320; #1609=4175 body 24]; #1658=4330S body 95 [converted to 4302 ??? - in France]; #1659 = 4175 [J.C. Leake, "V" windshield "Madame X"]; #1673=4375S body 399; #1701 = 4375S [shipped to Oklahoma City]; #1725 [blank record - possibly "demo" engine on show at Olympia, London, Oct. 1930]; #1733=4276 o3 4376 ??? [now engine only]; #1755 = 4130S [for C.T. Fisher]; #1758 = 4355 (#32); #1769 = 4175 (or 4175S) [sold at Scottsdale, 24.1.1986 for $64000; #1801 = 4376 [shipped to Los Angeles]; #1810=4381 body 19; |
| Jun.30 | 384 | 2213 | 1830 | 2213 | #1834 = 4380 AWP [Dick Shappy]; #1849 = 4257-H [Joe Morre], #1877=4302 body 58; #1878(?) may be a 4260 phaeton or 4380 AWP, located in Peru (1999); #1901 = 30-168 Fisher conv. coupe [factory service car]; #1954=4302 body 73 [later replaced with 1070]; #2025 = 4335 [restored 2001]; #2029-4225 [Cecil B. DeMille]; #2050=4175 [now engine only]; #2056 [?] = 4130 [Serge Pozzoli, France, chassis 2024(?)]; #2054=4155S body 2; #2073 = Nordberg town car [chassis #2042 (Matt Larson says 2041?)]; #2070-4302 body 77 [has disc wheels]; #2089 = 4335; #2101 = 4130S [shipped to Bloomfield N.J.] (???); #2103=4130S [for sale on eBay, 10/2005]; #2104= 4261S [now engine only in repro 4302]; #2117 = Fisher custom LX2913 shipped 21 June to CT]; #2137=4302 ???; #2152 = 4276, body #14) |
| Jul.30 | 297 | 2510 | 2214 | 2510 | #2225 = o/s engine now; #2232=4175S body42; #2236 = 4130S [for F.J. Fisher]; #2246=4276 body 17 [engine number changed?]; #2261=4276 [now engine only]; #2270 = possibly custom job for W.A. Fisher]; #2280=4175 body 90 [RHD]; #2291=4276 [new, 10/2004]; #2297 = Van den Plas landaulet [RHD, body No. 556]; #2338=4302 ???; #2363 = 4235 [in Sweden, 10/2000]; #2381=4235 [a survivor]; #2388 = Fisher custom LX2905; #2401=4260 [auctioned 2/06]; #2408=4260 body 41; #2414 = 4302; #2415=4330S, #2425 = 4260 [late Dick Gold, body #33]; 2455 = coupe style; #2478 = 4260 body 55 for Richard Arlen, Hollywood star [Edward Dauer, CLC Senior car #142]; #2486=4276 body 54 [registered as a '31 car]; #2488=4375 body 319 [Rick LeForge]; #2494 = 4380[?] |
| Aug.30 | 166 | 2676 | 2511 | 2676 | #2514=4260 [Fred Weber - rebody???]; #2515 = 4260 [Otis Chandler]; #2584 = 4155C [Body #18, currently in Zurich]; this range includes style 4200 (built in Aug. 1930); #2594=4276 body 71; #2619 = 4235 ??? [owned by Bud Tinney, Fla.]; #2631=4375 ??? [now engine only - former White House ???]; #2636 = 4380 [Elliott Klein]; #2655=4235 [Brent Merrill]; |
| Sep.30 | 82 | 2758 | 2677 | 2758 | #2677 = 4260 d/c phaeton body #25 [factory says shipped 30 Aug. to Don Lee]; #2648 (body #357) = 4330S [added 7/2000]; #2734 = 4260 shipped to Berlin]; #2746 = 4175 "Madame X" [body #70, originally shipped to Madrid]; could be chassis #2877 owned by German collector Dirk Mueller [car reported as having been delivered first to Governor of Gibraltar]; #2747 = 4380 [RHD, shipped to Port Elisabeth, South Africa]; #2751=4260 [survivor] |
| Oct.30 | 54 | 2812 | 2759 | 2812 | #2762 = 4375 [shipped to New York and later diverted and exported]; #2769 = 4175 [exported to London]; #2783=4375 ???; #2785 = 4330S; #2800 = bare chassis [exported to Paris - possibly Kellner town car or Saoutchik 5-pass. convertible Victoria]; #2802 = bare chassis [exported to Stockholm]; #2807=4235 body 91; #2809=4175MmeX; |
| Nov.30 | 33 | 2845 | 2813 | 2845 | #2814=4391 body 18; #2818 currently [10/2001] in Havana, Cuba [history and body style unknown (possibly 4175 or 4375)]; #2834=4235 body 92 [many special features, was stolen 7/1976]; #2880 = 4175 [Elliott Klein]; |
| Dec.30 | 38 | 2883 | 2846 | 2883 | #2856 = 4375S [exported to Antwerp, Belgium]; #2861 = 4375; #2865 = 4391 [exported to Havana, Cuba]; #2871 = 4260 [exported to Bombay, India (for Maharajah of Tikari???)]; #2872 = 4235; #2873 = bare chassis RHD [exported to London - possibly Van den Plas convertible Victoria or a "sports saloon" by Lancefield; both survive]; #2981 (Matt Larson says 2966) = exported to Antwerp on 17.12.1930 for American millionaire Jay Gould; #2876 = 4235 [currently (2003) in Norway]; #2880 = 4175 body 90 (RHD - Madame X, exported to London); #2881 = 4175 (went to Miami); #2882 = 4375 (went to Cincinnati); #2883 = 4312 (went to Boston); |
| Jan.31 | 25 | 2908 | 2884 | 2908 | #2884 = 4260 (for factory stock); #2885 = 4375 (went to Syracuse); #2886 = 4235 (for factory stock); #2887 = 4375 (last 1930 V-16, went to St. Louis); #2888 = 4330 (?) (1st 1931 V-16, went to New Bedford); #2889 = 4260 (went to Chicago); #2888 = 4330 (?) (1st 1931 V-16, went to New Bedford); #2889 = 4260 (went to Chicago); #2890 = 4312 (went to Chicago); #2891 = ["43" group sedan?], went to Minneapolis; #2892 = 4355 (went to Chicago); #2893 = 4291 (went to Chicago); #2894 = 4330(?) (went to Chicago); #2895 = 4335(?) Conv. Cpe., Antilles+Boatswain Blue, Wiese Bedford cord, 6 Delphine blue wire wheels, cost $7925 [or $6975?], went to St. Louis; #2905 = AWP, black, Wiese color 3898 [maroon taupe], silver leaf stripe, 6 wire wheels, cost $7925 [or $7205???]; |
| Feb.31 | 47 | 2955 | 2909 | 2955 | #2914 = 4375 [exported to Stockholm]; #2922 = 4375 [under restoration, 5/2004]; #2927 = 4260 [RHD, exported to Bombay, India (possibly for the Maharajah of Tikari???)]; |
| Mar.31 | 37 | 2992 | 2956 | 2992 | #2946=4330S ???; #2974 was exported to London; #2981 = 4330S [shipped to St. Louis, MI]; #2987=4260 ??? [now engine only, in '34 Ford ?]; |
| Apr.31 | 47 | 3039 | 2993 | 3039 | #3000 = 4291 for crown prince of Thailand; #3002 = 4361S [Fred Weber #4361S according to J. Schild; other source saysdestroyed in train wreck ... or possibly #4330S body #282]; #3006 = 4155 #13, currently [2001] in UK; #3026-3029 = unknown [two chassis used for display??? - #3026 is also reported on British style 4381 [reg. London, EUC 510], Motor Sport, 11/62, p. 894 [possibly owing to confusion between engine/chassis Nos.???) |
| May.31 | 50 | 3089 | 3040 | 3089 | #3050=4175 ??? [now engine only]; #3052 = [believed to have been 4302]; #3060=4260 ??? [now engine parts only]; #3080=4130S ??? [now engine only]; |
| Jun.31 | 46 | 3135 | 3090 | 3135 | #3101 = 4375 [shipped to New York]; $3106=4375S body 449; #3108=4275 body 411; #3118 = 4302 body 107 [last one built]; #3132 = 4276 |
| Jul.31 | 17 | 3152 | 3136 | 3152 | |
| Aug.31 | 7 | 3159 | 3153 | 3159 | |
| Sep.31 | 12 | 3171 | 3160 | 3171 | #3164 =4291 body 14 ??? [converted to 4264B in '70s], 3165 = 4302 body 94 [have body tag imprint - Dick Gold car, has many features of 452B]; #3171=4375S body 438 [only the chassis remains]; |
| Oct.31 | 14 | 3185 | 3172 | 3185 | #3180=4130S ??? [now engine only]; #3184=4476 body 5 [got body tag imprint]; |
| Nov.31 | 6 | 3191 | 3186 | 3191 | |
| Dec.31 | 0 | 3191 | 0 | 0 | |
| Jan.32 | 0 | 3191 | 0 | 0 | |
| Feb.32 | 59 | 3250 | 3192 | 3251 | #3192=[open number - not bodied?]; #3193=[open number - not bodied?];#3215 = 4375S [offered on Hemmings, 12/2003]; #3220 = 4235 [info from K. Kraakmo]; #3223 = possibly 4302 in France; #3225=4260 body 85; #3227=4391 ??? [now engine only]; #3232=[last unit from factory???]; #3245 = 4380 body 363 [survivor]; #3249 = 4260 body 71 [survivor]; #3251 = 4355, to NY [lot may have included style 3289B town car (1932?)]; 3252=[Last V16] |
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