1932

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Regular Production Models
Body Style	Body Number	Engine Number	Latest available information
155?	?	1400265	A black roadster was offered for sale in a Kruse auction [year? venue?] as lot #960.
155 [V8 coupe]	38 [V16 sedan]	1400118 [V16 sedan]	Only three of these were built. In the catalog of Kruse auction results for the May 2000 venue in Auburn, IN, was listed the car below (lot #131). It was described thus: "V-16, tan exterior - rumble seat, dual side mounts, frame off restoration." The final bid was $150,000; the car was not sold [photos below]. Kruse omitted to mention that this is a "hybrid" V-16 [V16 chassis/engine, paired with V8 roadster body. We must assume that the current body ID tag on the car was made up to conform with the new chassis/engine. Late extra (Nov. 2005): the car was offered for sale on eBay with this description: This car is absolutely artwork on wheels! This is a classic 1932 Hand-Built Cadillac V16 Rumbleseat Roadster By Fisher. This unique prize of an automobile will surely be the centerpiece of even the most particular investor’s collection. The absolutely flawless rust-free frame-off restoration took several years to complete by a meticulous Concourse D'Elegance Judge as a labor of love. This exquisite automobile was originally constructed from a 1932 V16 sedan, body number 38 (Chassis Number 32-16-159), and a 1932 V8 Roadster body number 32-8-155 (Chassis Number 32-8-155). Copies of the original build sheets will accompany this magnificent automobile. Outside of the three known to exist, this one of a kind vehicle will give any one of those a run for its money! The car was advertised also, around the same time (?) on a Internet site called "Sell it Now"; the asking price was $299,000: http://www.sellitnowmotors.com/classifieds/index.php?a=2&b=5152. Later (Nov. 2006): the car was offered for sale by Hyman in St. Louis, MO, for $225,000. Thanks to V-16 enthusiast, David Armbruster, for this update. Very Latest (Feb., 2008): a scam artist had this car for sale on Ebay with a Buy-It-Now price of $9,600 !!! The auction appears to have run its course, despite many contacts with Ebay to have it stopped. The "effective" selling price was some $97.000! Somebody is in for a surprise !
Most of these photos are from eBay and from Hyman Classic Cars
159	38	1400118	The chassis and power plant of this standard Fisher 5-pass. sedan (one of 56 built) was paired with a Fisher body from a V8 roadster to "create" the splendid "V-16" roadster shown above. So this sedan presumably became a parts car. I wonder if it was the car owned in 1952-53 by automotive writer Michael Lamm, mentioned in the Self Starter for Aug. 2007, pp.25-27?
168?	?	1400011	Convertible. Coupe: Gordon & Darlene Cochran, Pacific NW Region, CLC 7/91. p.4
168?	?	?	Convertible. Coupe: Ronald Benach, Lake Forest, IL [CLC 1/96, p.12] This car, photographed at Pebble Beach, 2002?
168?	?	?	Convertible. Coupe: Stephen F. Brauer, St. Louis, MO [photos below]

168	?	?	This convertible coupe is owned by one of my collector friends in Switzerland, Jean-Pierre Schindelholz. Only fourteen of these were made. Photo: courtesy J.-P. Schindelholz
178	#1	1400007	2p. coupe, Car Classics [Jim Brucker, in the seventies, former Movieland Cars of the Stars] - photos, below.

209	?	?	Limousine for 7 passengers
212 5175S	?	?	This information is borrowed from the Forum of the Cadillac-LaSalle Club, Inc. The car has been offered for sale in Norway by a Canadian vendor/owner (?). History: Purchased new by a Denver CO brewery owner, driven sparingly. Sold 1948 to an Oklahoma City OK doctor family. Allmost never driven, but served as a playing house for a mentally challenged child who ripped the seats and generally did little good to the inside of the car. The doctor´s widow hung on to the car until 1989, when present owner bought it and exported it to Canada. Has been in storage since, with only 27K on the odometer. Condition: Everything is there. Chrome is good both inside and outside, but the front bumper needs to be rechromed. Body has no rust-through, but original black paint is dull and chipped in places. The interior needs attention (see above). Mechanically "top" condition as stated by owner.
? 212 5175S ?	?	?	Trivia: I learned from the classdifieds in the Self-Starter for May, 1966, that such a car was offered for sale by a Mr. Philip Wichard for ... $3,200 ! Those were the days !
213 5175	?	?	Limousine for 7 passengers. One of these is currently (2000) located in the Robert Keyaerts Cadillac Museum at Langeais, near Tours, in France. I believe the late Mr. Keyaerts acquired it at an auction sale in Las Vegas in the eighties. It was on display at the annual Louis Vuitton Classic show in Paris' Parc de Bagatelle, on 9-10 September, 2000
Left: the 1932 7-pass. Limousine [photo: © 1991, Yann Saunders] Right: partial view of the museum with the '32-V16 in the background, a '33 sixteen in the center and a 31-V12 in the foreground
213 6175	8	1400071	Advertised for sale on e-Bay, Nov. 2000
213 6175	?	1400200	This imperial sedan was purchased originally by President Herbert Hoover, when he left the White House. It is an original, unrestored car and sold for $87,750 (including fees and taxes) at Bonham's Quail Lodge auction on August 17, 2007 [thanks again, Chris Cummings, for this entry - I shall be glad to get a couple of pictures if you have any].
222?	?	1400233	Town coupe (colors: maroon, gray and white). This car was offered for sale by Kruse [lot #696]
222	?	?	Town coupe for five passengers [possibly same car, older photo]
5181	#21	1400298	This is Fleetwood style #5181, one of the most beautiful cars ever built, in my opinion. Of the 24 town coupes built this year, this beautiful survivor belongs to Dr. Kevin Coorey, CLC member in good standing from New South Wales, Australia. He writes: This car incidentally, has been right hand drive since first ordered for the Australian market in 1932. Neither he nor I are sure if there are any other survivors; two others are listed above but are unconfirmed; in addition they might be one and the same car. This car has a body by Fleetwood [photos below]. I was honored to see this car when Gita and I visited Dr. Coorey in Sydney, in March 2005. I took some more pictures there; unfortunately, they did not turn out well owing to the poor lighting conditions in the underground parking lot where Kevin keeps the car in safe storage.
Note RHD arrangement (not a conversion done in Australia but a factory conversion done in 1932); I believe the non-original; white knob with red dot, on a lever attached to the steering column (visible just right of the rim) controls the directional signals
226 [5191]	?	1400185	Fleetwood Limousine Brougham (town car), style #5191; one of the seven cars built is currently (2001) owned by Dick Shappy of Rhode Island. The car is being offered for sale by Barrett-Jackson during their annual venue in Scottsdale in January, 2003 [see photos, below]. Car is possible owned now by CCCA member, Leo Gephart (photo in Bulletin #6, 8/2003)
This car? [ Photos: courtesy Dick Shappy ]
256?	?	?	5-pass Phaeton [Jack Nethercutt]
256?	?	1400189	This is CLC Senior car #386. In 2002 it was owned by Roger Willbanks of Denver, CO.
273	?	?	5-pass all-weather Phaeton; this car is (or was formerly) owned by M.M. Lloyd of Pottstown, PA and was advertised for sale in CLC, 8/92, p.15.One of thirteen built
273	?	?	Special phaeton. This one was sold by Kruse International for $280,000 during their Fall auction venue at Auburn, IN. No numbers were given. It features the same, metal, spare wheel covers as above. The catalog description reads : Complete nut and bolt restoration to the highest standards. An extremely rare Cadillac powered by a silky smooth V-16 giant. One of only three known to exist out of the original 13 built. This is the epitome of a custom bodied 16 cylinder American classic.
273	?	?	Possibly the same car as above, before restoration [photos below]

273	?	?	One of these [possibly one of the above cars] was sold in January 2004, for a reported $270,000, during the annual Barrett-Jackson extravaganza in Scottsdale, AZ [lot #692]
273	?	?	The same (or a similar) car was again on sale in Scottsdale, one year later, in January, 2005; it was again listed as lot #692. No details currently available. Pictures (below) from the Barrett-Jackson auction site, Jan. 2005.

256?	?	1400044	This one was owned in 2002 by collector and friend Jack Tallman of Decatur, IL. It is CLC Senior car #241.
279	1 or 2?	1400070	Dual-cowl phaeton, formerly of Robert Chamberlin, Jr., in Maryland, now belonging to Anders Lack of Sweden; this car was advertised for sale as a 1931 model in SS, May 1982; it was a national first-prize winner. It is the second of the only two cars built of this superb body style [photos, below]. I would appreciate getting from Dick Shappy (below) and Anders Lack the body number of their car, so that I might eliminate any duplicate information herein.
Anders brought his car from Sweden to the 100th Anniversary CLC Grand National meet in Detroit [ Photo, left: © 2002, J. Scott Harris ]
279	1 or 2	1400189	Special phaeton; one of only two built; this one is owned by R. Shappy of R.I. If you collect Cadillac toys, you may know that this particular V16 model was made in various scales, from 1:43 to 1:18, and by various manufacturers, including Yatming, Anson, the Franklin Mint and the Danbury Mint. It was this car that served as the model. Late extra: this car was car sold at auction by the Barrett Jackson group, at Scottsdale, AZ, in Jan. 2001, for a reported $176,000 (ten or twelve years ago, this model would have sold for half a million dollars). The sport phaetons feature a folding tonneau cowl and secondary folding windshield. I believe this is the car featured in Roy Schneider's excellent Sixteen Cylinder Motor Cars; it was first sold to Francis Lieber, a commercial airline pilot who got it for $2000 under list after it had sat for many months in the Philadelphia Cadillac Car Co. dealership in PA. It was originally painted black, with silver-leaf pin striping. The car had many subsequent owners; Lieber sold it in 1934 to the late Joseph Dexter, an oil broker; in 1937 a livery company bought it from Main Line Cadillac in Philadelphia and used it in funeral processions; later demoted to a simple flower car, it was ultimately sold to a company employee. In 1942, Gene Matlack, a young student, acquired it for $42 in ration stamps; he restored it and sold it for $175 to Dr. Baird Badenhausen, professor of psychology at the University where Matlack studied; Badenhausen later sold it to Fred Wetherill who, in turn, sold it to cover his wedding expenses; after that there were a few more owners. One was Nunzioto Micucio who got it from a dealer in Wilmington, DE. In 1948 Jack Matthews of Longwoods, MD, rescued it after it had been abandoned for months to the weather; his son Jack Jr., wanted to make a tow-truck out of it but instead accepted $275 for it from Paul Brake, a lumber salesman and speculator; Brake drove it in a parade in Cambridge, MD, where it was bought for $325 by the late Walter Tilghman, an elderly car collector. Tilghman kept it until his death in 1958; his widow sold it, together with two old Rolls Royces, for $2000 to Judge John North in Easton, MD. North sold it, together with an older Isotta Fraschini, for $2500 to Mrs. Mary Hecht, a car collector and dealer of Alligerville, NY. By now the price was rising sharply; before moving to Florida, Mrs. Hecht sold it to George Stuart for $17,500; Mr. Stuart completed a first restoration at a cost of $77,000! In 1972, he sold the car to Otis Chandler [price not disclosed]. In the CLC Self Starter (4/91), p.3, the owner is listed as Fred Weber. In the absence of definitive information on current ownership I would appreciate getting from Dick Shappy and Anders Lack (above) the body number of their car, so that I might eliminate any duplicate information herein.
This photo was taken on the lawn of Dick's beautiful home on Rhode Island, just across from the Kennedy home at Hyannisport I took this one in Warwick, RI, on the occasion of the CLC Grand National, 2000 [ © 2000, Yann Saunders] I am wondering if this could be the (former?) Dick Shappy car; it was on show at the 2001 CLC Grand National in Denver, CO, listed to Roger Willbanks; it does not have Dick's metal covers on the side-mounted wheels and tires In my opinion, this may be the car formerly owned by Dick Shappy [ Photos: courtesy Dave Brinckerhoff ] Car Collector for October 2006 reported the sale of this 1932 "Series 452-B" dual-cowl V-16 sport phaeton; the VIN was given as 1301125 [which is a V12 serial number for 1932]; dark red with maroon fenders, tan leather and tan cloth top, it had undergone a concours restoration and sold for $205,000; question is it a V-16 or a V-12?
280	?	?	Special phaeton, owner Stephen Bauer [CLC 1/96, p.14]. One of only three built.
	?	?	Imperial Sedan, advertised for sale on Internet, Aug. 1995, by RM Classic Investments Inc., MI, Tel. (313) 459-3311, Fax (313) 449-4004
5130S	?	?	5p. sedan, offered for sale in Self Starter 2/95, p.20, John Phillips, Portland, OR ($75,000)
5131	#4	1400056	[Maxwell Sapp - Madame X] AQ article; also SS 9/774, pp.4-5; story told by Hugh Gage of Wingham, Ontario, Canada. The car was built for R.S. McLaughlin, President of GM-Canada. The factory build sheet gives the body style as "370-B" instead of "452-B". It was delivered with black hubs and stainless-steel spokes. Fenders were painted Jones Dabney black; upper color was not listed [there was a note to "see Mr. H.E. Maurer" about it - possibly it was maroon, which was the color on the car when acquired by the 8th owner, below]. The shipping address was "Gen. Motors of Canada Ltd." There was a price reduction for blackwall tires and a upplement for the 2-tone paint finish. Gear ratio installed was 4.64 to 1. This incredible auto was acquired - years later - by a Mr. C.F. Kerry Gaulder ...for $40 (!!); it had been last registered in 1951 when Gage bought it in 1956; it had been in a garage near Hamilton, Ontario; Gage restored it to good running order; it had around 107000 miles when he bought it; he drove it up to 1964 when it had 119000 miles on the odometer [possibly even 219,000]. In May 2000 I was contacted by John S. MacKiernan of Plymouth, MA, a former owner of this car. John said: "When I had the car it was wearing maroon paint on the body and black on the fenders (old paint, possibly original). The striping on the body was silver inlay, not paint; and the original upholstery, while obviously not new, was still in a decent condition. There were fitted into the rear compartment both a clock and a speedometer. The engine and drive train were in superb condition, and it was a magnificent runner. I bought it off a small used car lot, South of Boston in the Autumn of 1965 for $550.00. Those were the days!" [John included a copy of the transfer of title, showing the purchase amount]. The first two photos, below were kindly supplied by Mr. MacKiernan. Note the factory original wooden artillery wheels and the Hollywood spinner hub caps. In 1974 the car was acquired by Mr. Sapp and restored to mint condition (third photo, below, by the late Gene Babow). Trivia: a 1932 Madame X limousine described as style 4200LX was advertised for sale in IL, in the Self-Starter, October 1967, p.15; I got confirmation in December 2001, from B. Keating, that this is THE car. That number, however, is not the body style number but a Fleetwood ID number for "special order" cars. The 1930 V-Sixteen identified as Fleetwood job number 4200 (the so-called French Brougham), is not believed to have survived. There was a snippet in Classic Car, some time in the eighties, about this car changing hands again. Thanks to extremely thorough research by enthusiast, Barry Keating, the history of this special order car is almost complete. The list of owners includes: (1)1932: R. S. McLaughlin, Oshawa, Ontario, Canada, (2) 1943: Bracebridge, Ontario, (3) 1946: Hugh Gage, Wingham, Ontario, (4)1951: Central Garage [Ontario, Canada?], (5) 1956: Stoney Creek, Ontario, (6)1956-1964, C. F. Kerry Gaulder, Burlington, Ontario [assumed he moved with car, in 1962, to N. Wilmington MA., (7) 1965: Huggard - Hewing Auto Sales, Stoughton, MA., (8)1965: John S. Mac Kiernan, Plymouth MA., (9) 1966: George W. Holman, Belchertown, MA., [George said he sold it to the next owner, in Indiana; he added that, at that time, the car had neither the GOLD-plated hardware nor the petit-point seat embroidery], (10) 196(?): William Spurling, Indianapolis IN., (11) 196(?): John Fisher, Huntington, IN., (12) 1967: Robert C. Kull, Mattoon IL., (13) 197(?): Bernard Miller, Los Angeles, CA., (14) 197(?): Wayne Bemis, Los Angeles, CA, (15) circa 1971-74, Maxwell Sapp, Los Angeles, CA., (16) Jerry J. Moore, Texas, (17) Jerome "Jerry" Sauls, New Hope, PA, (18) Dr. Murphy, PA., (19) 1998: Otis Chandler, Oxnard, CA., (20) 2001: Alan O. Melchior, Holiday, UT [see photos, below], (21) 2005: Chris MacAllister, Indianapolis, IN. [list update in May, 2005 by B. Keating, who wrote : Update on the life of 4200LX. Chris MacCallister just purchased it. I can't remember if there have been updates on the rest of the info so you had better check the writeup on the site and see if they agree. It seems I uncovered some additional owners; hard to believe there would be additonal ones, considering all those the car has had already! Latest [2/2008]: Here's what Chris, the new owner, said about the car: I thought I would update you on the status of my 1932 Cadillac V16 Madame X. This is the ex-Maxwell Sapp car. Since acquiring the car from Alan Melchior, I have had Brian Joseph rebuild the engine and put the car in good running and driving condition. It is in very much the same condition otherwise. Chris also sent the last photo, below.
Above two photos: courtesy of John S. MacKiernan Photo below: courtesy of the late Gene Babow "Special Order" body tag of the McLaughlin car Petit point upholstery inserts are non-original ...but add class to the car! [ This photo: © 2007 and courtesy Chris MacAllister ]
5140B?	?	?	Photographed outside the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Hall of Fame in the mid-seventies (top two pics) and at the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elégance, Aug. 2002 (2nd row), this appears to be unique "Madame X" style 5140B. It resides (2007) at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Hall of Fame. Gita and I were fortunate to get a close look at the car, in September 2006, during our "Fall Tour of the USA" (30 states and 11,000 miles in 7 weeks). Unfortunately, I was not allowed to get a peek at the body tag, under the hood. I am told that the car's original owner, a lady, was a wholesale outlet store owner in Indianapolis. Her son still lives there and occasionally comes round to admire his mother's car.
Pebble Beach, 2002 Two lightweight occasional seats are affixed to the bulkhead; in three of these views you can see the rear instruments (clock and speedo) mounted in the division partition [ Photos (above 4 rows): © 2006, Yann Saunders ]
[unk.]	?	1400140	5-pass. Limousine, totally restored; reportedly built for the President of Bethlehem Steel Company in PA. Car was offered for sale by Kruse [lot #694]. I may have a photo.
[unk.]	?	?	A 1932 V16 sedan was advertised for sale in the Self-Starter, October 1967, p.15 [see "5131", above]
[unk.]	?	?	In the same issue was a second 1932 V16 sedan, advertised for sale in Princess Anne, MD, by John Chamberlin, Jr. There was no indication of either model or price.
[unk.]	?	?	Enthusiast, Len Sholes, mentions a 1932 V16 sedan that used to belong to a doctor who's mentally challanged son used the back seat as a playhouse. He has never had the car running. Once Len is finished with a current Packard restoration project, he will attempt to get that V-16 started and will send us all the details.
[unk.]	?	1400152	This one is currently a spare engine in the R. Shappy collection, R.I.
[unk.]	?	1400174	This one too is currently a spare engine in the R. Shappy collection, R.I.
Surviving Sixteens of the first generation by foreign coach builders
209	?	1400077	For many years, this car was owned by the late C.W. Hampton in the United Kingdom. He imported the base car from New Jersey in 1963; it was, he said, a "rather ugly" 4-door, 5-seater model that was "in terrible condition". The restoration and conversion took 4½ years; it involved cutting about 12 inches off the body at the rear, enclosing the original rear quarter windows, adding a partition and division glass and creating a sedanca (town car) top. Black leather was used for the front seat and Marchal headlights were added to finish the job [I am assuming that this unique model was converted from the regular Fleetwood 5-pass town car, style #32-16-209 (I would need to see the body tag to be more affirmative)]. Mr. Hampton passed away in 1995.

© 1996, Yann Saunders and the Cadillac-LaSalle Club, Inc.
[ Background image: 1932 V-16 Victoria convertible photographed at a Cadillac meet, USA ]