V-16 Surv1 [1930-1931]

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Body Style	Body Number	Engine Number	Latest available information
4108-C	#3	700004 then 700821	There is a good article on this unique, surviving Fleetwood style #4108C [owned by Steve Nanini of Tucson, AZ- formerly by Dave Towell of Akron, OH] in SS for April 1986; the car cost $9988 new [PHOTOS BELOW]. In the Self Starter for July 1966, Ann Towell (Dave's wife) tells the story of buying this car from Lorin Tryon and driving it from San Francisco to Kansas City
When these two photos were taken, the car was still owned by Lorin Tryon This photo and the next one show the car as owned by Dave Towell The preceding three photos show the car after a full restoration by Steven Nanini The door handles were were put on upside down (left), then corrected (right) [ Photos: Pebble Beach, 2008 ]
4130 (1)	#30	?	I have somewhere a photo of a surviving style 4130 "Madame X" limousine registered LXW 534 [UK?]
4130 (2)	#30	?	This unidentified photo appeared in an older issue of the Self Starter. This is the rare version of the Madame X built in Fleetwood, PA, with an almost vertical, split "V" windshield.
4130-S(1)	?	?	This car listed new for between $7300 and 7875. This survivor is located in France. It belonged to the late Serge Pozzoli, former editor of the specialty magazine, Le Fanatique de l'Automobile. I have often wondered if this might be one of the six sixteens that toured Europe in June 1930. We know, for example, that the special phaeton [style #4260] remained in France and got a new body by Jacques Saoutchik; I am almost convinced too that the town brougham [style #4264-B] remained in Belgium and subsequently may have got a modified body by Bronkhorst in Holland; perhaps the convertible roadster [style #4335] stayed in Germany and got a new body by Voll & Ruhrbeck. It's all just supposition, really; if anyone has the facts, I'd be glad to add them here.
4130-S(1)	#26	702103	This survivor was owned in the '70s-'80s by Owen R. Crain. Pictures of it are included in two books I have: (1) Great Marques of America (p.41), Š 1986 by Jonathan Wood, and (2) one that was published in France under the title Un Livre Decor - Cadillac, Octopus Books, Š 1986. The car was offered for sale on the Internet (eBay) in October, 2005; it appeared to be in much worse condition than when the pictures in the 2nd row (below) were taken; nevertheless, it sold for $69,350. A subsequent sale by RM Auctions, at Hershey, on October 12, 2007, achieved $93,500.
Could this be the same car after restoration? It appears that the door handles were mounted "upside down" [ Photos (above 2 rows): Internet, 10/2005 ]
4130-S	?	703080	Formerly owned by Jim Pearson. Only the engine remains. Info from Rick LeForge.
4130-S	?	703180	Formerly owned by Jim Pearson. Only the engine remains. Info from Rick LeForge.
4155	#25? #13?	703006	This was acquired recently at a Christie's sale in Pebble Beach, CA; the new owner has taken it back to the United Kingdom where it will be exhibited in a museum.
4155-C	#18	?	This extremely rare Madame X landaulet is one of only five such landaulet body styles mounted on the Series 452 V-16 chassis. Somehow it found its way to Switzerland, where it still resides, near Zürich. It was used there for many years as a fire truck (!) by a small Swiss-German community. Acquired and restored as best he could by Walter Grell, it may be the sole survivor of the five units built. Among the flaws I noted were some non-original equipment such as the tail-lights (they appeared to have been custom cast), two out of four door handles (one of the originals was also mounted upside down) as well as European-style flick-up turn-signal indicators mounted on the A-pillars. The sidemounts and RH rear wheel were equipped with what looked like snow tires or old truck tires. Imagine what this car could look like if it were restored to original specs by a professional !
Photo: Š 1995, Yann Saunders
4155-S	#2	702054	From the former collection of Wayne Merriman. Info from Rick LeForge.
4161-S	#38	?	Reported owned some time ago by Jim Black, P.O.B. 8762, Catalina Branch, Tucson, AZ 85700 [July 72 C&P, p.90]; possibly now owned by D. Kizziar, OK [CLC Directory] ?? ??
4161-S (?)	?	?	This photo from unknown source (appears to be a survivor, rather than a factory photo)
4161-S ex 4175	#34	702232	This car belongs to Pete and Sharon Sanders of McLean, VA. The engine is from a Fleetwood style #4175 limousine. The owners rescued this car (already with its replacement motor) from a junk yard. It had a bent frame (!) and a tree was growing up through the engine compartment. You have to admire the work that went into "reviving" this beauty that ended up taking Best of Show at the 2007 CLC Grand National venue in Savannah, GA, in August 2007.
*[ Photos: CCCA Classic Car* magazine, left and CLC Self Starter, right ] [ Photo: Š 2007 and courtesy CLC ]**
4161-S	?	?	This info is from an article by Bud Juneau that appeared in Car Collector for June 1981. At that time the car belonged to Charles Jones of Woodland, CA. Who has it today ?
*[ Photos: Š 1981, Bud Juneau and Collectible Automobile* ]**
*4161-S*	?	702368	The engine from this car was apparently transferred to a Fleetwood style #4330-S sedan for 5 passengers, then to a roadster style #4302, replacing V-16 engine #700917; I assume this "Madame X" model was either destroyed or sold for parts.
4175 (1)	#24	701606	In the list of survivors prepared by Rick LeForge, this one is listed as owned by a Mr. Poway in Oklahoma
4175 (1)	#70	702746 or 702877	[to be confirmed as a survivor] This "Madame X" limousine was one of 12 units originally shipped to Madrid, this one in September 1930]; it is configured for RHD. I have it from a French friend and Cadillac aficionado that the car was offered for sale, in Germany, in 2002, by a company called "Mirbach" ; it was described correctly as a 1930 series 452 V-16 Madame X style limousine. However, my friend has got from the (current?) owner, Dierk Mueller of Soltau, Germany, the technical inspection report and appraisal (Gutachten) (in German) by Wolf Dieter Freiwald, certified senior engineer of DEKRA AG, Stuttgart, Germany, dated May 29, 1990. The car was inspectyed in March 1990 and is described there as a Cadillac "Series 452A" that was built on July 1, 1931 and delivered that same month; this does not jive with the factory shipping records. The body style is called a "Pullman Limousine, type 4175 [correct], Madame X type" [correct]; the colors are brown [for the fenders, belt molding and and lower body] and beige [upper body]; this corresponds with the photo below; it was repainted in 1977 with 2-component acrylic paint; all chrome, glass, tires and inner lighting all are in excellent shape; the car has wood artillery wheels with metal wheel covers. The front compartment is all original; the passenger compartment has been completely redone in turquoise (?) velour (?) with gold backround (accents?) and a green velour (?) floor covering; the inlaid mahogany divison and instrument board both are in good condition; the engine and transmission were overhauled and appeared in good condition but the appraiser was not able to do a test drive. The chassis is shown as #70 [shown here, perhaps in error, as the body number]. Dekra confirms that the car's first owner was Gibraltar's governor at the time. The appraiser mentions a total production of 110 units of Fleetwood's "Madame X" style #7175; however, we know that 24 of them had the vertical windhshield and split instrument panel; they looked very different from this car (I note that the report also lists Fleetwood style #4476 as a "Madame X" model when in fact that series comprises only 4-door cars; style #4476 has only a slanted windshield similar to the windshields on the "Madame X" models built in Detroit). The car's estimated "collector car" value in 1990 was 400,000DM. I have only poor B&W copies of the color photos taken of the car in March, 1990, at the time the inspection was carried out. [ Photo: courtesy "Llopdoro" and American Car Club be France ]
4175 (1)	#90	702880	Originally shipped to the GM facility in Antwerp, I spied this car first in La Cad, the magazine of the Australian CLC, Winter 2002 issue, p.37 [and subsequent issues]. This one was ID'd by Aussie CLC president, John Hewitt. It is one of the rare RHD sixteens for use of U.S. Diplomatic Corps. It belonged formerly to Elliott Klein of AZ. Vin # was supplied kindly by V-16 enthusiast, Chris Cummings; body number provided kindly by Rick LeForge. This car carries a CLC "Senior" badge; it is in very good condition and original in every respect. Late extra [6/2005]: offered for sale for $185,000 Australian Dollars [Contact: Phone 61-2-45778755 or office@elffarm.com.au]. Formerly owned by Akron, OH, Cadillac Dealer, Dave Towell, he had it for sale in the Self Starter classifieds, back in June 1966 for ...$7,000 ! How the car got to Australia is not known at this time. It is owned there by Rob and Nora Tolson
This lovely survivor belongs to Rob & Nora Tolson, of Sydney, Australia [ Photo: "La Cad", magazine of the Australian CLC ] A total of 86 of these flat-windshield, Madame X limousines were built; at least one [this one] had RHD [ Photo (right): courtesy Australian CLC magazine, "La Cad" ] [ Photo (left): Š 2008, Warren Hawtin ]
4175 (2)	?	?	Here is a survivor whose current owner is not known. I believe this car was in the collection of James C. Leake of Tulsa, OK, in the late seventies. he wrote me in April, 1977, saying "I also have in restoration a V-16 Madam X Imperial limousine which I will also offer for sale at my [annual] auction". *Very rare, Pennsylvania-built Madame X* style #4175, with vertical windshield**
4175?	?	702818	This car currently [2000] is in Havana, Cuba, where it is in the care of Ing. Eduardo Mesejo Maestre, Director, Automobile Depot [Depósito del Automóvil], Office of the Historian of the City of Havana [Oficina del Historiador de la Ciudad de La Habana]; the car needs a complete restoration. The body tag has not been found. The front clip and door handles do not appear to be original; fender parking lights are missing too.

4175 (1)	?	?	W. Rust, CA [CLC directory]
4175 (1)	?	?	J. Bohmer, MN [CLC Directory, 2002]
4175 (1)	?	?	B. Hughes, [CLC Directory, 2002]
4175 (1)	?	?	Tip from a Mexican friend, Javier Pesquera [May, 2007]; this badly deteriorated Madame X limousine is located in Mexico, owned by an elderly gentleman. Javier is trying to buy it. The V-16 motor appears to be missing, as are also many trim and interior components. Restoring this car (especially in Mexico may prove to be an arduous task).

4175	?2	703050	Only the engine remains. Formerly owned by the late Jim Pearson. Info from Rick LeForge.
4175 or 4175-S	#42	702232	Formerly owned by the late Jim Pearson. Info from Rick LeForge. The engine out of this car was transferred to a Fleetwood style #4161-S Madame X town sedan (body #34, above)
4175-S	#74	702879	Quite a few survivors This one was photographed at a car show in Canada in 1999 [PHOTOS BELOW]. V-16 "sleuth", Chris Cummings, believes this is the car offered for sale by Hyman Ltd. in April 2008, as stock number 3759. We are checking and seeking confirmation as well as VIN and body numbers. From what Chris is able to make out with a magnifying glass, he believes the VIN is 702809. Latest [4/2008] : Shawn Dougan of Hyman Ltd. provided the actual VIN and body numbers, now shown here. The car came from a Michigan collection but was originally in Canada.
LH photo: Š 1999, Stephen Nadon - RH photo: Š ConceptCarZ [Internet] [ Photos: Š 2008 and courtesy Hyman, Ltd. ] This car ?

Body Style	Body Number	Engine Number	Latest available information
4220	?	?	One survivor is owned by James Harman. I've seen it mentioned in SS, 1972 and 1985.
4220	?	?	R. Crane, NJ [CLC directory]
4225	?	?	One survivor is owned by Jack Nethercutt of San Sylmar, CA [Merle Norman collection]; it was featured in an article in AQ, for the fourth quarter 1984.
4225	?	702029	One survivor is owned by Jack Nethercutt of San Sylmar, CA [Merle Norman collection]; it was featured in an article in AQ, for the fourth quarter 1984. This car once belonged to film director, Cecil B. De Mille
*Photos: (top and left, below) Self Starter* magazine, 2/2005; (right) Š Dennis Adler**
4235	#7	702363 ????	I photographed the car below at a show in Pennsylvania in the early eighties. It has survived, still, and is currently in Sweden in the private collection of Anders Lack (photo below, right). I'm not sure of the engine and body numbers. However, engine number 702363 is fitted with this Fleetwood convertible coupe body style and such a car was reported in Sweden in 2000; could it be Mr. Lack's car?
Photo (left): Š 1982, Yann Saunders; (right) Š Anders Lack
4235	#45	????	Owner listed as Bob McGinnis. Info from Rick LeForge.
4235	#59	702655	The owner of Fleetwood style 4235 convertible coupe #82 (Kjell Kraakmo of Norway), believed that this car was undergoing a complete restoration in the USA, in 2003; he did not have its engine number. Late extra [Jan., 2008]: the car has been acquired by collector-enthusiast, Brent Merrill. Brent said : The car was originally destined for Uppercu Cadillac in New York, but was diverted for delivery to Plattsburgh,. NY, in the summer of 1930. The ownership history can be traced back to 1939 and we believe that, including me, there have been five owners of the car. Two of them were long term owners (30 plus years each). We are hoping someone might contact us to fill in the nine years we are missing between 1930 and 1939 or tell us if there was ever a Cadillac dealer in the 30's in Plattsburgh so we can trace the history to new [try contacting Knight Cadillac, Plattsburgh. NY]. The car has had a ground-up Concours quality restoration, completed three years ago by Bob Bachman in Virginia. The previous owner had the good fortune of having the original sales order for the car, so it has been kept true to original. The paint, including the pin stripes and wheels, are all the original color identified on the build sheet. One of the owners painstakingly searched out the correct colours over a period of years. The upper panels are Joselyn Gray and the lower panels and trim are Trafalgar Gray. The pin stripes and wheels are Winooski Green.Since the restoration was completed it has been driven just once. It is kept in indoor storage. It is in EXCELLENT condition, including the paint, chrome, top, and interior. There is not a nick or scratch anywhere. The top has never been put down, it is perfect including the bows and the fabric.
4235	?	702381	Was offered for sale in the classifieds of the Self Starter, in June 1966, by Dave Towell, a Cadillac dealer in Akron, OH. He described it as "one of the top cars in the country". It was beige with dark brown fenders. Anybody know where it is today ? Could it be this one, owned by Dayton Card and featured in an article in AQ, for the fourth quarter 1984. [ possibly this car? ]
4235	?	702619	This one is included in the roster of survivors prepared by Rick LeForge. In 2001, it was part of the Otis Chandler collection (Vintage Museum). The first owner is not known but previous owners include Elmer Franzen [Franson?] of Minneapolis, MN (1961-1967), the late Cadillac Jim Pearson of Kansas City, KS (1968-1983) and Bud Tinney (1983-1997). Enthusiast Chris Cummings believes it is now (2005) owned by Jim George of Haymarket, VA. Jim provided the story of his car, as well as some lovely photos, in an article published in the April 2006 edition of the Self Starter.
At the Potomac Region show, Oct. 2005 [ Photo: Š 2005, Dan Reed ] Left: retouched designer's drawing from 1930 V-16 product brochure Right: profile view of Jim George's car does justice to the original design *[ These photos and previous row, right, courtesy Self Starter, April 2006 ]*
4235	#91	702807	Info from Rick LeForge.
4235	#92	702834	Former owner was Paul Schinnerer. Info from Rick LeForge. The car was stolen in May of 1976. It had many special features.
4235	#82	702876	K. Kraakmo, Norway. This car is undergoing a full restoration. The owner informed me in March, 2003, that the engine was cast in July 1930. It was delivered to Uppercu Cadillac Co. in New York on Christmas Eve, 1930.
4235	#96¹	703220	¹ According to the owner of the preceding car (#82), ninety-six of these convertible coupe bodies were built by Fleetwood and this one carries Body #96. Factory records thoroughly researched by Carl Steig and others show that only 94 such bodies were mounted on the V-16 chassis. I surmise, therefore, that the two "extra" bodies were mounted on V8 or V12 chassis; there are other instances of V-16 body numbers exceeding the known V-16 production total. Perhaps Mr.William Meffert, THE authority on Fleetwood style #4235, can resolve the mystery of this high body number (BTW, he believes there are some 10 survivors worldwide).
4235	?	?	Jefferson M. Brown of the Peerless Motor Car Club recognized this photo from the 2000 NAPA parts store Collector's Edition calendar. The owner is identified as Dale E. Fowler, but no location is given.
4235	?	?	Rick Carroll [article in AQ]
4235	?	?	J. Bohmer, ME [CLC Directory]
4235	?	?	T. Derro, MA [CLC Directory]
4235	?	?	J. Pascoe, MI [CLC Directory]
4235	?	?	B. Scheef, WA [CLC Directory]
4257-H	?	701849	This unique Fleetwood body style appears to have survived. The owner, Joe Moore, left this message on the Cadillac-LaSalle Club, Inc.'s message board on June 21, 2002: Have 7 pass one of a kind with scroll hood. Need any parts & accessories including any information of original sales data. Delivered new to a dealer in NYC. Fleetwood body #16-688, engine # 701849. Currently in complete restoration. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Joe. In the 2002 CLC Directory the owner is listed as B. Massman, CA.
4260	#1	?	This car was for sale in California (there was an ad in SS for Nov.-Dec. 1967, p.15).
4260	#82	700665	This car was sold for $150,000 as lot #1136 at a Kruse auction in Auburn, IN, in August 2000. It was blue outside and in; although an older restoration, it is still in fine condition, with a new top, covered sidemounts and mirrors, trunk rack and spotlights. Numbers were supplied kindly by Timothy Pierce who represents Robert De Mars Ltd Automobile Appraisers/Historians in West Palm beach, Florida USA. The low engine number suggest that this is a re-body; perhaps someone has info about the original body that was used with engine #700665. Tim says the car is currently [March 2001] available for sale for $235,000
4260	#2	701554	I saw this car at the Barrett-Jackson auction in January, 1998. It was gray-mauve with matching leather trim and trunk. It carries the engine that was first used in the European Tour car; the latter was re-bodied by Jacques Saoutchik of Paris, circa 1930-31. This is CLC Senior car #141 and is owned (2002) by Steven Nanini of Tucson, AZ. Photo: Š 1998, Yann Saunders
4260	ex- #2	ex- 701554	Chassis # 7-101(?) (see below - this chassis was re-bodied by Jacques Saoutchik of Paris, France - the original sport phaeton body (#2) was mounted, later, on another V-16 chassis (see preceding car)
4260	#42	702401	Was last sold at auction in January, 2006, for $363,000 [tip from V-16 owner/enthusiast, Chris Cummings]. This car has been retrofitted with power steering. The build sheet shows it to have been delivered first to Cadillac’s Philadelphia branch. It was later diverted to New York and sold there. Owned by collector Robert Chamberlain, Maryland, in the seventies, he sold it in 1981 to the late Philip Wichard of Hauppage, New York, who had it fully restored in the late 80s. The car has scored 100 points in CCCA Grand Classic judging. Sold by Christie's in 1995, it was acquired by Charles Cauley who sold it to the current vendor in 1998. The driver’s compartment remains in show condition. Accessories include a “lo-boy” trunk, Pilot Ray driving lights, radiator stone guard, twin windshield mounted spotlights, wind wings, and metal sidemount covers. Late Extra [1/2008]: the car is slated for sale, again, at RM Auctions’ Automobiles of Amelia Island Auction, March 8, 2008. Estimate was between $400,000 and $500,000. The car sold for $522.000! Late Extra [8/2008] According to Chris Cummings, this car is to be sold again at the coming RM auction in Monterey, CA.

4260	?	702406	[NEW, Dec. 2008]. This car was offered at auction by the Gooding Co. for their January 2009 venue in Scottsdale, AZ. It has been fully documented. Here is the auction catalog description supplied kindly by collector-enthusiast Jon Riley of Chicago: This spectacular Cadillac V-16 Sport Phaeton was delivered to its first owner in Brookline, Massachusetts, through the local distributor, Boston Cadillac, LaSalle and Oldsmobile. While the name of the original owner is unknown, a later owner, Richard Warren, had done much research on the car and believed that this rare Sport Phaeton was primarily used at the summer home of its original owner, located in Vergens, Virginia. By the late 1940s, the original owner had parted with his exceptional Cadillac and the car was in the care of a local garage owner. In 1950, the garage owner sold the car to a prominent collector, Harry King of Worcester, Massachusetts, for the outrageous sum of $125. Some years later Richard Warren of nearby Auburn purchased the car from King for the same price of $125. Evidently King became tired of the car by this time and simply felt that he merely receive his minor outlay in return.Warren kept the car for some time and during his ownership he installed a fresh 1932 V-16 motor to keep the car on the road. Thankfully when he sold the car to Homer Fitterling in 1955, the original engine went with the car [Mr. Fitterling still had the car in 1959; he was a member of the CLC at that time]. When Fitterling passed away in the mid-1980s, the car, along with its proper, original engine, was sold at auction to George Lucetti of Springfield, Massachusetts. Lucetti spent the next four to five years treating this important car to a comprehensive restoration. Not simply content with restoring the car cosmetically, he completely rebuilt and reinstalled the original V-16. After restoration Lucetti sold the car and for a number of years it resided in the collection of noted collector Bob Bahre. In the mid-1990s, Bahre sold the car to another noteworthy collector, Bud Lyon, who retained it for nearly a decade, a strong testament to its outstanding quality. Lyon then sold the car to Dave Kane, yet another collector of great American classics. Since Mr. Kane’s ownership, the car has had only two subsequent caretakers, the last of which has gone to great lengths to ensure it remained in pristine condition throughout. Beyond careful cosmetic upkeep, Classic and Exotic Service, Inc. in Michigan has ensured that this V-16 has been properly maintained in every respect. Today the car is beautifully presented in a very fitting color scheme for such a grand, luxury automobile, and it sports a number of desirable accessories including a pair of Pilot Ray auxiliary driving lights, dual side-mounted spares, radiator stone guard, chrome wire wheels, wind wings and the beautiful Jaeger Eight-Day trip clock and speedometer in the rear compartment – a feature only found on the prestigious Cadillac V-16 Sport Phaeton. The interior, with its machine-turned dashboard, uncluttered gauges and ample legroom is a truly inviting space for open touring and the whole car has a lovely feel to it, as would be expected from such a solid, well-cared-for example. The original Cadillac shipping documents support that this is one of the original, always desirable V-16 Sport Phaetons. If it was an exceptional car in its day, it is even more so over 75 years on, as so few have survived with their original bodies, chassis and engines. This example is one of the fortunate survivors, and it is one of the most important examples of the Olympian Classics produced in Detroit’s golden era. The 1930 and 1931 Cadillac V-16s are the ultimate development of the classic narrow body, flat radiator automobiles developed during the 1920s. The Sport Phaeton is, to many, the most desirable of all. This V-16 is a marvelous example of one of the most legendary cars in the history of the American automotive industry and it will continue to serve as an excellent contender in concours d’elegance competition, a faultless touring car and a proud example of General Motors’ glory years. The car is black with a red interior.
4260	#34	702408	Included in the list of survivors prepared by Rick LeForge. Owner cited as Senator Woods; there exists an article and photos of the car.
4260	#33	702425	Owned by Dick Gold, article in "Torque", Jan-Feb. 1982 [this V-16 style listed at $6150 on 1.1.1930, then $6500 on 10.15.1930]; in the CLC directory it is listed as being under the ownership of C. Selick, NY. I wonder if this is the car shown on p.29 of the Australian CLC's La Cad magazine for spring 2004; there the owner is identified as Charles Selick. Unlike other "4260" models, this one has a "43**" series scalloped hood and horizontal sill. Is it possibly a re-body ?
4260	#55	702478	This phaeton was delivered originally to Don Lee Cadillac in Los Angeles for the actor Richard Arlen. The original color was Talina brown and the factory invoice is dated June 13, 1930. Subsequent owners include a Mr. Brinkerhoff, then Jim Brucker, owner of Cars of the Stars, museum who customized it and loaned it out for use in the movie The Carpetbaggers, starring Alan Ladd (it was outfitted with longhorns atop the front grill, cowhide (calf skin) seat covers and six-guns as door handles). When the museum closed down it was acquired by Don Westerdale, then by "Cadillac" Jim Pearson, Rick Carroll and Donald Mayora, who returned it top factory specs around 1985 and restored it fully in 1990. In 2002 it was owned by Ed Dauer of Coral Springs, FL (2002). It is CLC Senior car #142 [my '42-75 is #601]. The car is fire-engine red; it was on show in Pennsville, NJ, in 1991). The story of this V-16 is told in CC 12/92 pp.32-37 and CLC 4/93, pp.3-4. This particular car was offered for sale by the Kruse auctioneers as lot #655 (...but which year?)
A scene from the movie, "The Carpetbaggers" (Left) The Carpetbaggers car after a first restoration; the original color was Talina brown and (Right) ...after a second, subsequent restoration when it was painted "prize-winning red" *These two photos and the one below by Dennis Adler for Car Collector* magazine**
4260	?	702514	This one was said to have been acquired by Aaron Weiss, circa 2006. Late Extra (1/2008): The car was listed for sale at the annual RM auction that took place on January 18, 2008 (lot #138). Value estimate was between $300,000 and $350,000, the car sold for $302,500. In the text description accompanying the catalog entry, it was stated that this car had remained with its current California owner for 20 years (did the sale to Aaron not go through?). It is a re-body although the first body is thought to have been the same as this one (sport phaeton). It was sold to the present owner by Fred Weber in the mid-80s. This car or one very much like it was on the block at another RM venue [as lot #229]. However, the S/N was listed as #702797 and the engine as #702998; that car sold for $495,000 [commission included]. It was said to have been restored in 1987 for Bill Lassiter and is an AACA national first prize winner. A previous owner was Rick Carroll. Christie's had sold this car in March 1999 for $299,500.
[ Photos: RM Auction web site ]
4260	#2494 ????	702515	`Thanks to enthusiast Ray A. Holm, a relative of the family of an early owner, we now know that this car was once owned by Joseph B. Runyan ofPasadena,California. Mr. Runyan restored this vehicle in the late 1950's (I believe), and owned it until his death. The vehicle was sold to Otis Chandler by the surviving family members [daughter Constance (Runyan) Pace]. Ray knows the car well and had occasion to drive it. Thanks for the "inside information", Ray. A color photo of this car is featured in Maurice Hendry's definitive`Cadillac History`; at the time Mr. Runyan first restored the car, he had it painted black. During a later restoration he changed the color to bottle green, as may be seen in the snapshot below.`
4260	#41	702588	Owned by a Mr. Cole, according to the list of survivors prepared by Rick LeForge.
4260	?	702751	Owned by Patrick Ferchill, TX
4260	#70	702797	This one is owned by collector-enthusiast, Aaron Weiss, who informed me in Feb., 2008 that it was a part of his superb collection. I am hoping that he will provide the body number as well as a couple of photos for the Database records. I am wondering if this is not the SAME car as listed above, with VIN #702514 and below, with VIN #702998 [but S/N #702797]?
4260	?	702927	This rare RHD survivor was owned by Russ Head; it was built for Maharajah Bhupinder Singh of Patiala¹ who subsequently gave it as a gift to his friend, the Maharajah of Tikari, in India. Enthusiast, David Hayward (e-Mail address: gmhistorian@btopenworld.com) wrote in July, 2002: The r.h.d. 1930-31 Sports Phaeton # 702927 has belonged to an acquaintance of mine, Ron Hickman, on the Island of Jersey for many years. It has also been featured on a Jersey stamp. Thanks for the info, David. _____________________________________________________ ¹ The story goes that the Maharaja of Patiala was snubbed by snooty British salesmen at a Rolls Royce showroom in the U.K.; he is reported to have got his own back by buying up the entire consignment of 50 vehicles on display and turning them into garbage trucks back home. An English paper printed a picture and the story, which sent company representatives scurrying to Patiala with an olive branch. It is interesting to note that the Maharajah never bought another RR in his life, nor did his children. As Capt. Amrinder Singh remarked, "He hated Rolls Royces for the pomp and snobbery attached to them". The family were great fans of American Cars.
Photo [left]: Š 1982, Yann Saunders The car was a real eye-catcher at the super-Cadillac-meet organized in England, in September 2003, by CLC member Robert Maidment; teenager on RH photo, above is Sven, the son of Dutch enthusiast and friend, Dirk Van Dorst [ Photos above two rows: Š 2002 and courtesy Dirk Van Dorst ] Photo: Robert Maidment, CLC - UK
4260	?	702987	Info from Rick LeForge. Only the engine remain. It was installed in a '34 Ford (article in 1946 issue of Motor Trend).
4260	?	702998	Identified as S/N 702797 with engine #702998, this car looks very much like the one identified above as #702514. It could be also the sport phaeton above with VIN #702797? I saw a report of an RM auction sale, with this car listed as lot #229. It was sold for $495,000 [commission included]. That car was said to have been restored in 1987 for Bill Lassiter, it is an AACA national first prize winner. A previous owner was Rick Carroll. Christie's had sold this car in March 1999 for $299,500. [ Photo: RM auction catalog ? ]
4260	?	703060	Only engine remains. Info from Rick LeForge
4260	#85	703225	Formerly owned by Akron, OH, Cadillac dealer Dave Towell. Info from Rick LeForge
4260	#33 or #71	703249	Rick LeForge's listing shows the body number as 71 and the owner as Ray Jones. This is the second to last V-16 of the 452-452A series; it was brought to my attention by the current owner, in October 1999. It was sold originally by Cadillac's Ohio dealership to the first owner, Joseph Vanmeter of Piketown, OH who is reported to have kept until the early fifties. Subsequent owners are not known until 1984, when the car was owned by aficionado, Fred Weber. Fred sold it to Steven Nanini of Tucson, AZ, who had the car fully restored by Tom Sparks and subsequently sold it back to Fred; subsequent owners include Pat Ryan of Montgomery, AL, the Hogan family and ultimately Ray Jones. Late extra [April, 2007]: the car changed hands again at Amelia Island, in March 2007 [sold by RM Auctions for $561,000]. Thanks to Chris Cummings for this update. Here is the rather lengthy, but justified description of the car, as published in the RM Auction catalog [paragraph spacing eliminated to save entry space]: Although constructed in 1931, car #703249 was not sold until 1932, when it was transferred to an Ohio Cadillac dealer, who arranged delivery to its first owner, Joseph Vanmeter of Piketown, OH. The Vanmeter family kept the car for many years – reportedly well into the 1950s. Subsequent ownership history is not known, but by 1984 the car was in the care of Cadillac V16 aficionado Fred Weber, of St. Louis, MO. In 1985, Weber sold the car to Tucson collector Steve Nanini, who immediately sent the big V16 to Tom Sparks, a noted Hollywood, CA based restorer. Sparks reported that upon disassembly, 703249 proved to be in remarkable original condition. Nonetheless, he embarked on a comprehensive, professional restoration to the highest standards. It was a true “nut and bolt” restoration, including a full mechanical rebuild and the installation of a high speed rear axle to permit relaxed touring at modern highway speeds. Among V-16s, 703249 is instantly recognizable by its stunning color combination – a rich, dark blue that appears black at first glance, accented by a lovely blue leather interior. The combination clearly impressed the judges at Pebble Beach as well, as the car won its class – first time shown. Multiple concours victories followed while Nanini and Sparks continued to refine the restoration; their efforts were rewarded the following year at the prestigious Meadow Brook Concours d’ Elegance, where the car not only won its class, but brought home best in show honors as well. Club judging results were equally impressive, with the car earning its AACA National First Senior award, as well as scoring a perfect 100 points in CCCA judging. Unable to resist the car, Fred Weber repurchased the V-16 from Steve Nanini, although circumstances led him to sell it shortly afterwards to Montgomery, Alabama collector, Pat Ryan. Ultimately, Ryan sold the car to the Hogan Family Foundation, from whom the vendor acquired the car about three years ago. An extremely detail-oriented and highly focused businessman, the vendor commenced a program of upgrades to what many would have said was already a perfect car. In total, he spent more than $50,000 with noted restorer Steve Babinsky on a host of improvements, including engine work, a new tan top, correct sidemount covers and mirrors, chrome updates (including all the top bows), and a comprehensive program of detailing intended to return the car to the very highest echelon of competitive concours cars. The result was another string of accolades, including top awards in 2005 at both the Greenwich Concours d’ Elegance and the Concours d’ Elegance of the Eastern United States. Although the restoration is now nearly twenty years old, the vendor’s updates have achieved the desired goal - the car still presents beautifully, and gives little sign of the years that have passed since the restoration was completed – a reflection of both the quality of the workmanship and the high regard its owners have felt for this astonishing sixteen-cylinder masterpiece. It is important to note that even under close examination it seems that the V-16 also retains all of important original components, including all gauges and instrumentation. The driver’s compartment remains in show quality condition, fitted with the correct Jaeger eight-day trip clock and speedometer, while the rear compartment features an additional speedometer and chronograph – a feature completely unique to the V-16 Sport Phaeton. Accessories include chrome wire wheels with stainless spokes and wide whitewall tires, Pilot Ray driving lights, a radiator stone guard, twin windshield mounted spotlights, dual side mounted spare wheels with the extremely rare correct metal covers, accessory mirrors, and a correct Cadillac Heron radiator mascot. As one of just eighteen original V-16 Sport Phaetons remaining, this beautiful and correct original-bodied example is one of the most sought after classic cars from the period. The quality of the restoration, and the care taken in its preservation make it quite possibly the finest example of its kind extant.
Since the previous owner kindly supplied these photos, the car has acquired a new tan top, authentic, Cadillac V-16 metal side-mount covers [below] as well as a new "Heron" hood ornament in lieu of the original "Goddess"
4260	?	?	This one is currently owned by the Cadillac Division of GM; called the Red Devil on account of its red-red-red color scheme (originally Satan red with Puritan white wheels), it was donated to the Division in 1973 by the original lady owner. Mrs. Little. At the time she acquired the car, she had a private 'plane painted in an identical color scheme. There are articles about the car in Torque, the SS and AQ
The old and the new ...Cadillac "Sixteen" (1930 and 2003)
4260	?	?	As yet unidentified photo:
4260	?	?	P. Schinnerer, CA [CLC Directory]. Is THIS the car? It was shown at the 2006 Grand National in Anaheim,. CA, where it was photographed by Dave Armbruster, director of the St. Louis Missouri region CLC. The hood was wired shut for transport so Dave was unable to get the numbers off the body tag. Paul has also a style 4280 AWP. Photo: Š 2006 and courtesy Dave Armbruster
4260	?	?	Mike Alabaster, Australia [CLC Directory] - Many B&W photos to be seen in Australian CLC's La Cad magazine for Summer 2004 / 2005; Aussie CLC member John Hewitt who kindly supplied the photos, below, mentioned that Mike had built this BEAUTIFUL car from the ground up. I shall try to get more details (donor car, numbers, restoration photos, etc.)
[ Photos: Š and courtesy John Hewitt, CLC Australia ]
4260	?	?	(1931) Owner: Thomas La Rue, of Thomas Cadillac, Los Angeles (SS, cover 9/96); this car was offered for sale at auction in the nineties [lot #1051 - which year, which venue?]; it was described as a fabulous concours quality body-off restoration of an outstanding car with original paint and one of 18 documented originals. AACA National first and CCCA Senior... No sale ensued at that particular auction, where the car was bid up to "only" $325,000.
4260	?	?	Dennis Sobieski, Downers Grove, Illinois ? [The Classic Car, Autumn, 2001 and winter 2006] I wonder if this could be the former La Rue car ?
4260	?	?	One enthusiasts wrote: the silver and blue 30 or 31 V-16 sport phaeton is owned by two guys from Kalamazoo, MI. They also own the tan-colored 1940 V-16 convertible coupe that sold about four years ago for $360k.
4260	?	?	Owner anyone ?
[ Photos in above 2 rows were taken at the GM Museum in Detroit ]
4260	?	?	Owner, anyone? This is an older, color PC and probably shows a museum car.
4260	?	?	R. Benach, IL [CLC Directory]
4260	?	?	C. Harper, NH [CLC Directory]
4260	?	?	R. Ritterbeck, OH [CLC Directory]
4260	?	?	Offered for sale in the Self Starter classifieds for Nov.-Dec. 1966 by Don Cole of Columbus OH, who said it had been bought new by his father. He said, "it looks horrible, but it is excellent". It may be one of the cars listed above.
4260	?	?	The owner of this dual-cowl phaeton contacted me in May, 2004, pointing out that the car was in his family's collection since 1958. He reports that it entered the renowned collection of D. Cameron Peck in 1941; the current owner, Patrick Ferchill, TX, retains a copy of the title in that name. Around 1947 the car was sold to a Raymond Utter of Shawnee, OK before being acquired by Mr. Ferchill's dad in 1958.
4260	?	?	[unidentified] Possibly this unidentified car... ... or this one (or is it the same car?) [ Photo: RM Auctions catalog ]
4260 special d/c	#25	702677	Body #25 of 85, in fact this is a unique sport phaeton built by Fleetwood with a folding secondary cowl and equally folding secondary windshield (regular 4260 styles had a crank-down secondary windshield); it was owned for many years by our friends Ray and Dorothy Radford of Portland, OR, then later by Bob Laravee; there is an article about this V-16 in AQ. This car may have been owned also by Ted Hohman of Grand Rapids, MI [mentioned in CLC 1/96, p.12]
Cutaway of the special, dual-cowl sport phaeton by Ron Kimball for Automobile Quarterly The D/C phaeton at the time it was owned by Ray and Dorothy Radford of Portland, OR [ Photo: Š1973-74, and courtesy Ray and Dorothy Radford ] [2nd row, above]: the car prior to its restoration by Bob Larivee Lower row (left): possibly from an auction catalog of the eighties Lower row (right): Š Automobile Quarterly [ Note how the car was repainted "award-winning"red ! ]
4264-B [4291]	#14	703164	It is believed that none of the original, six Fleetwood style #4264-B razor-back town broughams survived; only three of these featured the French cane finish applied to the rear body. Designed in October 1929, this Fleetwood style listed between $9,700 and $10,275. This particular car is a c

Body Style	Body Number	Engine Number	Latest available information
30-158	#3	701341 [replacement]	A wide variety of bodies were offered by Fleetwood on the V-16 chassis. A rare few bodies were built by Fisher, as in the case of the smart-looking three-window coupe offered here. Only three were built and this one carries #3; I'm not sure, however, if Fisher bodies were not listed in numerical sequence with identical V-8 and V-12 styles. The car was owned for a time by Dick Shappy, of Rhode Island. While largely complete, it required extensive improvements, and an expensive, multi-year restoration was undertaken. The panel work was in surprisingly good condition, but needed repairs were carefully made, and all body wood was redone. The engine was replaced many years ago, and was reported by the prior owner to have been rebuilt. An inspection revealed it to be in good condition, so little was needed other than cosmetic improvements. Cadillacs of the period were identified and registered by engine number and build sheets are available from Cadillac Historical Services for virtually all sixteen-cylinder cars. Since the engine of this lovely Fisher-bodied coupe was replaced it is impossible to obtain the original documentation for the car. Nonetheless, the vendor determined that the original color was black, and as a result, the car was refinished in that color. Similarly, fragments of original upholstery allowed a similar wool fabric to be selected for the restoration. This car was offered for sale by RM Auctions in August, 2005. It found a new home ...but not for long, since it appeared again on the RM auction block at Amelia Island the following year (2006) when it sold (again?) for $132,000. Later, in the summer of 2007, it was advertised in Hemmings for $165,000. Then, in the fall (October, 2007) it appeared on the website of Hyman Ltd. Classic Cars with a $227,000 price tag.
This car is/was owned in 2006 by enthusiast, Bob Perry [ Photos: Courtesy Dick Shappy ]
30-259?	?	700106	This lovely Fisher-bodied sixteen is owned by Jim Van Loben Sels. To my knowledge, however, Fisher style "31-259" was a sedan for five passengers. Only one of these closed bodies [car #31] was ever put on a V16 chassis, but that was in 1932, so the engine number (VIN) would have to be between 703192 and 703251. Chassis/engine #700106 left the factory in March 1930; IMHO it is highly doubtful that it remained for almost two years without a body. Oddly enough, the body number of the only Fisher style #259 put on a V-16 chassis, is #31; this adds (potentially) to the confusion, considering Fisher's numbering system where the first two digits indicate the year of manufacture (e.g. "31") and the final three digits, the actual body style (e.g. "259"). A study of factory records carried out in the early seventies by Carl L. Steig of the CLC revealed that the numerical sequence for another Fisher sedan style [#212, 7-pass sedan, of which 47 units were built on the 1932 V-16 chassis] jumps from #30 to #32. From my own study of Fisher's body numbering system I would suspect that Fisher style #259 [which was a factory V-16 demo car] probably is that "missing" style #212 sedan with the jump seats removed. But again, pure guess work on my part! I have suggested to Mr. Van Loben Sels to get from Cadillac's Historical Section a copy of the build-sheet for his car; that would provide an indication of what body was put on that particular chassis when it was delivered from the factory. I suspect that the original body was removed and replaced with this more desirable open body style.
Note in the details (above) that the body sill has none of the characteristics of any regular V-16 series for 1930-31; the bumpers appear correct for a 1930-31 V-16 model but the road lights appear to be after-market units [ Photo: Courtesy Jim Van Loben Sels, owner ]